The par-4 17th at Ohoopee Match Club.

In this volume of the Salon, architect Gil Hanse sits with Derek Duncan and Jim Urbina to discuss how he and design partner Jim Wagner build golf courses. They talk about the sanctity of being on machinery, if routing is more vital to a good course than shaping, the importance of “cooling off,” the importance of “living” the golf course through the design process, cheating evolution, giving himself permission to push the envelope, the heroic strategies of Ohoopee Match Club, developing a feel for the ground, whether or not we’re in a “Second Golden Age” of design or if it’s more a period of revivalism, and the lasting impact of the best modern architecture.

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